Bot Libre

Hi Will,
I have been playing around with this a bit. It is important to understand how the bot is setup on their website. There are many options and the tutorials are not all that great. Where you want to start depends on what you want to do. Also, until the bug is fixed you can only have one bot at a time on their website to import. I have made and deleted a few of each. I have had the most entertaining time with the AI Template. Base your bot off that if you want a learning based robot. It can remember responses. You can import information to talk about and I am still learning about that.

The tutorial above will get you through most of the process, just use the AI template and at some point in the future import chat logs and AIML scripts.

We'll be working through this together

Sounds like perry will be teaching us how to use it, will

Yes! I will be interested in building out an AI Template. I’m going to look deeper into this one.

If you would like to speak to your bot instead of typing to it you can easily use the Bing Speech recognition. Here is the basic setup I have.



In the Bing configuration where it says 'All recognized script' put in this line of code.

Code:

controlCommand("Bot Libre", "Send", $BingSpeech)

Now you can just talk to it with no typing.

Nice! That's a good idea

Thanks Perry for all your great work in getting this working !!!! 
:)*cool*:)

Thomas

No prob! Like perry said, there’s A LOT to it so be prepared to learn their options and settings. I have to read more of what aiml2 is and how to program it

Mine is working again, who knows lol




EzAng your tester

followed Perry's advice

Hi DJ, Any news on accessing multiple bots through the drop down list?

No word from the developers yet. I figure they’re working on it. With a project of their size, I imagine it’ll be a bit. Not everyone works as fast as us

Perry - the latest update has a fix for listing all personal bots

Thanks DJ, I was wondering if that was on your side or theirs but I noticed it last night.

It was a combination of both sides, ugh. 

Their documentation for the API is outdated and doesn't mention any parameter to "filter by personal bots". The only option they documented was "filter private". But even the filtering of private didn't work because our private bots would only list 1 of the many. Their email responses when i raised the issue told me it was because my bots weren't configured correctly. Anyway, this went on for a while where i believe they actually checked and realized "oh man, this guy is right its is broken"

So they got back to me this morning with an email that said to use a different api call, which is not documented anywhere... with a parameter, that is also not documented anywhere 

Needless to say, it magically works now haha

works well again

thanks

We'll I have spent some time working with Bot Libre now and I would like to share some first impressions as well as high points and disappointments

As you have seen above I made a simple app with everything needed to speak and listen to bot libre. here is what I found.

Pros 
-The web interface is easy to use to create a bot based on their templates.
-DJ has done a great job of integrating their services. 
-They have a couple of different templates and scripts to import that are good. 
-It can offer limited learning abilities on things like names.
-They track bot emotion - that is cool

Cons
-It seems to be a dead site and the forum has listings to 2016 as most recent
- The "AI" is not AI by any means.
- They say they support AIML 2 but they don't really, they translate it into their SELF language which make for a lot of confusion for those of us looking for AIML.
-The AIML scripts they have on their site have errors when trying to import so you do not get to use them.

-They have an AI competition which is a really cool idea having different chatbots talking to each other. That would be really cool. The clear winners seem to be pretty dumb when you talk to them one on one. 

Summary
-In my opinion this is on par with the Pandorabots plugin that currently exists. I still feel that Pandorabots 2.0 is the golden key. It is the industry leader and perhaps a plugin could support their use with a pay subscription now that we are in pay subscription territory. 

Second Summary
My dream of a talking bot that I can talk to is still way off. I seek a fully interactive AI. But I guess if those really existed they would have me working in the dilithium mines. I can tell a bot is a bot in 2 questions. That is sad.

Alright! That's great feedback. I'll get started on a pandorabot 2.0 skill for ya :D. Excited to see what you can do with it.

Thanks DJ.
I think a good first step before migrating would be for yourself and perhaps Jeremy or PTP (he's good at this stuff) go in with a programmers mindset and see if you can take a couple hours and create a bot that it truly interactive. Really give it a run through and see what the talent can create.
I don't want you to have to do a lot of reprogramming because I many not be the best person to interpret their platform.

Thanks Perry, that was really detailed.

DJ,
I am retroactively thanking you for adding this. It might be our best option right now. Starting to spend more time with it. It's not the cure all but with Pandoarabots gone...

I am really surprised that with all the stuff that gets developed a simple learning conversational bot is not a reality. A little puck that talks to you like a friend or something. Empowered by the endless depth of knowledge available on the internet. I know it's hard but it is probably hard to code an app that puts a stupid sets of bunny ears on you in real time for your phone as well. Sheesh,    /rant

I too worked some with Bot-Libre but ran into a lot of roadblocks including that "SELF" language which totally through me off. For the time being, I have returned to AIML 1.

Currently, besides my work on Simone the fembot, I am building a conversation tree template in MS Excel to facilitate the logic and text in producing chatbot topics with the goal of being able to have a real conversation. You can't build a topic one line at a time. You need complex conversation trees. Alice could never carry a real conversation.  Alice has very few conversation trees (and a lot of mistakes!) out of the box. As you may know, a conversation tree, like a common programmer's flow diagram, lets you plan your bot's conversation. If you start with a 4 x 4 matrix of input and output and then allow each individual category on each level to go to 4 x 4 , you end up with quite a few categories, but you might just end up with a good conversation. Yes, it is manually intensive, but it is the only way that I think to make AIML smart. Brute force works in playing games like chess and it could work in AIML as well. 

Simone the AI fembot, by the way, is physically complete and has basic voice operated servo control. My first servo Magazine article has been published and it is ON THE FRONT COVER. As I am using an EZ-B and ARC, Synthiam is getting a lot of free press. You're welcome. 

DJ, would you please let me know of any big ARC changes coming down the pike? I have uploaded sample code here and will be putting it on github as well. As you are well aware, ARC changes will often require changes in the code for me and my readers/builders.