wow I am surprised Gael lets EZ-Robot sell this. He has been pretty adamant in the past that the inmoov design could not be used for commercial use. CC BY-NC

OK I see that the 3D printed parts are not included in the kit so you have to print these yourself.

@athena does the sale of this product comply with the rules of CC BY-NC

The InMoov robot, designed by Gael Langevin, is indeed licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial (CC BY-NC) license. This means that the design can be used and modified as long as it is not for commercial purposes and credit is given to the original creator.

EZ-Robot respects the licensing of the InMoov robot and provides hardware and software solutions that can be used to control the InMoov or any other robot. The sale of products by EZ-Robot, such as the hardware components and ARC software, is separate from the 3D printed parts of the InMoov robot. Users are responsible for sourcing or printing their own 3D parts in compliance with the CC BY-NC license.

If you have any concerns about licensing or the use of InMoov with EZ-Robot products, you can always reach out to EZ-Robot for clarification or visit the support section on the EZ-Robot website for more information.

Hi @Nink,

I wanted to confirm that we are staying true to the CC-BY-NC License. We have remixed the design and open-sourced it with the same license. We do not profit directly from the design files, and we do not sell 3D printed pieces but rather we offer a parts package that makes it much easier to build an inMoov Head. One of the hurdles of building an inMoov head was that the parts weren't easily available, or standardized, and it was difficult to find all the parts in one place. Usually one would have to find all the electronics parts, hardware, and tools from a variety of suppliers. EZ-Robot has rectified this struggle.

Interestingly enough, if you do some digging you'll find we aren't the first company to sell an inMoov Head kit.

I also wanted to mention that at the top of this page, it says Number of servos: 8, there are actually only 4 servos in the kit.

I guess one would have the ability to add 4 more servos to the IoTiny but it would be a tight fit.

Thanks for the clarity @Jeremie. Yes I worked out you were staying true to the CC-BY-NC when I visited your website where it specifically stated did not include 3D printed parts.

I think this is a good idea that everything is in one kit. I often find when I head out to build something, despite having boxes and boxes of components, I am always waiting for a month for some obscure component to turn up from Ali express in China.

This will be a hit at the summer robotics camps for sure. A construction video that shows how you construct and configure and use the robot head would be helpful.

I was just looking at the building instructions. Page 5 shows an EZB holder from Six/Flipper, and page 50 shows an EZB not an IOTiny.  Not sure why these pages are in the assembly instructions.

Thanks @Nink

Those two pages are correct for the following reasons:

The EZ-Robot LiPo battery comes shipped inside the Six body for added protection. It is a hard case for the battery and the battery needs to be removed once delivered to the customer.

In the IoTiny firmware the picture of the EZ-Bv4 was used for its webserver diagram. It was used during development at that time because the IoTiny final form factor didn’t exist yet. It’s one of those things that we forgot to go back and update. It’s hard to go back now and justify a firmware update to change a photo, so unfortunately it’s a classic case of it is what it is.

*Edit Oops I forgot to mention that a build video is on the way! We’re putting the finishing touches on it.

OK I think I get it. Thanks Jeremie I am trying to assemble all the parts. For some reason most of my HDD servos have 1 of the tabs cut off.:)

Are you also taking the  switch and fuse from the Dodecagon body in the design as well?

I may just solder a fuse in and change design for power slightly as I don't really want to sacrifice a Flipper/adventurebot and don't have some of the power connectors you are using.

Hi @Nink,

Yeah, if you’re reusing HDD servos from the EZ-Robot lever servos they will have one tab missing.

Yes, we’re using the wiring harness from the dodecagon body (or JD body).

Best of luck with your build!

Thanks I will need it. Aggghhh

I see a similar wiring harness is in the EZB bench stand from the early development kits so I will try that.

hi all

i'm tinkering with this inmoove head too . i have a question . were do i find this little red connector ? in the yellow circle ? 

i'm trying to make the inmoove also have a yes motion .

Hello @Nomad,

That is a micro deans connector, also known as a mini t-plug. You can get some from EZ-Robot or find them online in a few places.

hi jeremie

ah ok . i have a look .

thanks

hey ninck

bedleveling in not good . you can see were the nozzle hit the part . its burn .

hey jeremie

is it possible that only one pin is used ?

@Nomad, it's a 2 pin connector, both are needed. One connection is "+" voltage (7.4V) and the other is "-" voltage (GND)

hi jeremie

ah ofcourse . the other side has allreddy a pin .

thanks

mini T-plug

Thanks Nomad  I ran a full calibrate and a new spool of PETG and back in business. There is a lot of parts in this so going to be a while.

I played with the ARC project that was on EZB site. It's pretty good but I think I am going to have to make some small changes to project and to InMoov.

The playback from the IoTiny is really delayed as we go Mic > Speech > Bing > Text > Pre-Process in ARC > ChatGPT > Text > Voice Talk servo / MS Voice => Wav file => IoTiny => Speaker.

I found a tiny bluetooth speaker was much faster as it removed the wav file conversion and transfer to IoTiny and using VAD with a close up wireless microphone instead of wake word was quicker but still the delay to Bing and then chat GPT is really noticeable.  ChatGPT does support voice now so I think it would be good if we could just go Mic > ChatGPT > Voice Talk servo / Bluetooth speaker.

hi ninck

i'm testing a modified  base to get a servo in front to have a ( yes ) motion . also a double small iotiny speaker .

hello averyone .

does anyone made a vdeo how the sound box sounds ? i'm thinking a double soundbox . would that make a louder sound ?

copper eye reddy and new base. it has the moveble ,sideways servo's in the back . my idea is to give the head more movements like , yes and tilt sideways , the parts are the original from inmoove .slichtly modified . when reddy i post them here .

double speaker.stl

Hi Nomad,

Unfortunately, I don't think your design won't likely help amplify the sound. I put a fair bit of time and R&D to make sure I could approximately double the volume of the IoTiny speaker. I designed the voice box as a transmission line loudspeaker enclosure to use acoustic wave physics to amplify the sound. You have interrupted the initial chamber with your design and it likely won't be as loud.

I'm very curious why you would change the voice box design, it's actually quite loud, have you tried it before making the modifications?

hi jeremie.

i didn make it . it was aan idea . ok i make the original then .

thanks for the update .

The little sound box worked very well.  I used a bit better quality speaker in mine as I did not have an original IOTiny speaker but works great. I am experimenting with some old Bluetooth earbuds to get rid of audio delay as well. I also like how you put ez-robot connectors on so you can use speaker box in other projects.

Well that was fun. Whats next. 

Program it! Looks good :)

hi nink

your inmoove is allreddy complete ? wow thats fast .

Is an InMoov ever complete?

The instruction that Jeremie provided were easy to follow and I even struggle with ikea furniture.

I tried to stick with the plans provided although I did change the wiring up and built in the lipo charger so it can run from wall or battery and added a wireless mic and Bluetooth speakers in the build that was about it.

From what I saw on Jeremie's desk yesterday, your robot head isn't finished  ; he's got something new coming out. It's something they've been working on for a bit. Get your printer warmed up, haha.

goodmorning dj and nink

nink  here a tip for ikea furniture . orgenize all bolts and screws , nails first . that wway its easier to see how it comes together .

dj

you making me very curieus .

hey jeremie

question .does the voicebox need print support ?

and secons question . is it importent to line up the cut out in the eys balls ? in one side its on the outside and the other on the inside ?

btw i have an idea for the voicebox .

hey jeremie

indeed the voicebox is loud and very clear sound also . https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HJF9VBIsblk

I wondered about the eye cut out for about 30 seconds than just screwed it on. It doesn’t seem to have a purpose. Maybe it is for an LED wire or something in future. I glued the other two pieces of the eye on as well.

My method for making IKEA furniture Step 1 ignore  the instructions. Step 2 screw it together the way that seems logical, Step 3 pull it apart and screw it together again the way it fits.   Step 4 hide the remaining screws before my wife sees them.

hi nink

i keep the cut out on the out side just incase .

i put some cotton in the voicebox . it sounds like it has more base . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rmbF2opnWU&ab_channel=EDP

Hi @Nomad,

Sorry, I thought I had replied already. The voice box has built-in supports that need to be removed after printing.

Please see the instructions on this page (in the downloads area): https://www.ez-robot.com/store/p86/ez-inmoov-robot-head.html

The eyeball cutouts are part of the inMoov legacy design and were probably for running some wires like @Nink suggested, we don't need them in our case.

hi jeremie

i have all info . i made two voiceboxes . i filled one with cotton . sounds like , a little more base .

thanks

hi all

a little progres . the front servo at servoRandom(d2,50,150) and it goes high . and this without getting the pot out . no need for that .

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G0Bx5RDgc-M

hi

this is a great build . wel explaned and documented .  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P5pgWft0dMw

hi jeremie

question . the neckplateHighV2 , is that desame as the original inmoove ?

No, sorry, @Nomad that part was modified quite a bit.

hi jeremie

ah , thats why the backpistons dont match . can you remember if the back holes , for the pistons are modified ?

thanks

Hi @Nomad, Do you mean the side pistons? I haven't tested the original side pistons, only the front piston which is compatible.

hi jeremie

indeed the front is correct . the side pistons in the back not . am printing the original backpistons so i can compare them . little bit longer neck also . good practise .xD thanks

hi jeremie

your neck part is correct and the org pistons do fit . found the problem . the error i made is to make the inner piston thinner . that changes also the pad that the treath needs to follow . solution . original pistons and slithly higher neck . and two part inner piston .

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m0e5sGoomJo

Yeah Nomad the original side pistons are definitely too tight of a fit, I’m glad you found a fix for yours!

jeremie

i made a neck extention . one two wervel 68 MM high and one tree wervel 87 MM high . so no need to reprint a new neck . it slide into the original neck . if you are using the , standard neck , the two wervel will be best . i made a 1 wervel too .

Question. I am missing something (which most probably I am) shouldnt there be a left and right forhead with a camera cutout if i want to put the camera in the forehead instead of the eye?  In the source files there is only one piece to print out.

dbeard

i ts one file with two parts in it .

Camera tracking works waaaaaaaaaaaay better in the forehead. Because you can use the relative camera option to move the eyes when tracking.

Thank you Nomad6R.  I downloaded and printed but only had one part print for some reason.   Redownloaded and now i see both parts.  Thank you very much for your help.

@dj

what do you think of two cameras in bolt eyes ? haha i just ordered two cameras .

dbeard

somtimes you see a file like this " partx2 " means you have to print it two time , or you need two of this part .

How does 2nd cameras work unless you add a second IoTiny/ (or run a USB Cam from the PC).

Looks in drawer.  Hmm a ESPCAM with a long camera cable. I was wondering what to do with this one.  

hey nink

consider the head will not walk or drive . its easy to put a second camera , and let the cable out on the back side . put an ezbv4 behind the head . lots of ports for excample lighs .

HAPPY HOLYDAYS averyone . hohoho

I don’t like cameras in eyes at all. It’s not an efficient place to put them. Difficult to program for.

@dj

so i have two spare cameras then .

Try with two cameras and see if you like it. Maybe you will :)

@dj

next week i have all my parts . i can do bolt . one camera in the forhead and two L.E.D as eyes. bolt options will be great .

@jeremie

i have two questions .

1 , the jack powerclip ,does it have some kind of attachment to keep it in place ? 2 , i made a left voicebox cause the wire runs on the left side . is that good ?

i needed a hole box of test parts . to figur it out .xD

hi all

some great progres ,its working . if you do this make sure not to go over the settings. servo d4 is the front servo . it tends to tip over when making side ways motion . this way its very limited for that tip over . how to connect the two side pistons. calibrate bolt servo's and then aline one piston and base ( hole ) put a screw in . then aline the other piston but disconnect the iotiny first . you need to turn by hand , the previeus piston to be able to get second piston in . print the cross connection with 35 infil and the gyroid , in your slicer to make strong parts . things to do is the jack plug holder . i'm gonna make , a tab so you can screw it on the back skull , little more steddy . please remember am a hobby designer , check the parts .

Download: basesmalpistonIN.zip

@Nomad, you should publish your remix and files as a tutorial or a robot. That way people will be able to find it. It will get lost in this lengthy thread in a few days, and no one will see it again.

@dj

thank you for the tip . i will do that . what do you think of this remix ?

I see Gael has a new robot head he just announced (and hands) called the i2 Head  Now has eyelids, teeth, brow and various other facial movements. You can also print an inner and outer mold and then make a silicon face.  I guess I need to start printing again.  

Oh I don't know if i like that haha. I think it just crossed the uncanny valley in my eyes eak

Interesting! Thanks for the heads up @Nink xD

@Nick,  where do you get the new head? I can’t find it anywhere. Thanks

Head I2

Thanks Nink

Thanks Nink. I had trouble finding that as well. Time to be an early adopter! Noting, it doesn't look like the eye files are released yet.

This thing is starting to look a tad bit creepy with the teeth. For some crazy reason my printer is humming along and seems to be endlessly calibrated. Dogs care not that our overlords are coming!

Great progress Perry I haven’t even started mine. I am not sure how complicated the skin is going to be to make so I am not ready to commit until he releases instructions.

The eye files are there on the drop down list as well.  There is a new Discord Channel where people are building it.  https://discord.gg/NGcaNHtJjK

Thanks Nink! I have no real reason to print this but I recently fixed my printer and I have pretty much all of the parts and a ton of filament. A little bored.

Have to tell you, after a couple of days printing this, I do not recommend that you do the same. First off, I have never heard Gael say this was ready for prime time, so this is in no way an indictment of him. In fact, quite the opposite.  The design is not complete yet. Certain holes do not line up and there are some clearance issues. He will fix that. The head design seems good and solid, but the eyes are a mess with many small 3D printed parts that have inherent slop or frequently break due to their small size and the forces they must endure.  Gaels quest for a fully 3D printed robot is visionary and, in fact, probably the future of robotics. He is a pioneer. That is also the Achilles Heel for people like me that want something now. The whole eye assembly (and much of the robot) could be made so much more precise and operable if he used some off the shelf parts. RC aircraft planes/helicopters/cars/drones have so many parts such as clevises, metal push/pull rods, precision mechanisms that are dirt cheap. The eyes could be actuated much like the elevator and rudder on an RC aircraft with nylon, screw-on control horns and metal rods to the servos with nylon clevises on the ends. That would never break.

I will probably continue to rage print this even though it will be tossed aside pretty soon. Gives me something to do in the meantime. Not to sound ingrateful, I really do appreciate what Gael is doing.