@fredebec THIS IS WHAT I FOUND out about same as you only the one made tsukuda did buy the company ,but the first ones made had the zmp company and date on it then when TSUKUDA BOUGHT THE COMPANY THEY PUT THERE BRAND NAME ON IT.

thats the same with all companies when they buy another company out or a small line of them And the reason that ZMP SOLD PART OF THE ROBOTS THEY WANTED TO MAKE PRO ROBOTS

like i said a few time i made a mistake just every does at times on the cost of the item I got that info on the price from servo magazine

still others still bring up that point about me says it cost $30000 and i said it doesnt cost that much

so far since the item is its worth a lot more,just like anything thats rare or first one made

THIS SHOWS proof thats its made by the ZMP COMPANY not TSUKUDA HOBBY COMPANY thaey put there company on the package ,first to show they made and second to let customers contact the company for repair

DOEST MAKE ANY SENSE to have another company name on their product

SO I HOPE THIS ENDS IT,BUT I BET NOT

LAST time it is a TOY doesnt COST $30000 as i thought ,but mostly a rare item unless there is proof about the company name placed near the bottom,i would like to see a box with ANOTHER COMPANY NAME who made the same item. thats very good

NOBODY can say if the item is rare or not ,just that simple What a rare item is when its made my the original company and only a few made 1000 may be 2000 and then sold to another company,also the date over 12 years old, This one was made by the company before they sold it,BUT I THINK SOME WILL SILL DISPUTE IT

BUT the main item is what the topic heading says (i bought 2 very cool robots ) and we are off that topic 100%

PEOPLE MORE WORRIED ABOUT what i said wrong about the price then the topic its self,may be just looking to find a fault or something

AT LEAST only person who said some thing good and on topic is STEVE about the learning mode it has. my manual i have on it says the same thing ,i see very few robots that can do that

on the first page about how it works,its same for one made by TSUKUDA HOBBIES or one made ZMP COMPANY who made the code or by RADICA ITS ALL THE

RICH like always got it off topic but looking for mistake by me,i know now it was a mistake if he didnt say anything there would be any one else saying something i think

RICH on ebay cheapest price is $100 sometimes $70 8 INCH model is about $40 to $60, mine was at a super deal ,guy had it at $175 free shipping buy it now and start price for both $115 i got very lucky i seen them sell for $100 before he posted the one i bought I AM SMART EBAY BUYER,reason i get my stuff at a fairly low cost BUT it seems you love to find faults in me ,like in my robot photos,when you said it was a stock items and didnt wait till i posted the real robot photos of them in about a hour or so.

Re-read the topic. I was very thorough before mentioning the fact that they aren't the advanced ones... I did a lot of research and asked you questions in order to make that judgement.... you know what, I really do not need to justify anything. This has just proven to me that when I attempt to be civil to you it just doesn't happen.

But if it makes you feel better carry on trying to blame me for everything.

ok you say that not going to argue with you,but only you make a comment like that nobody else,until you make a comment then some others make comment to it also

THIS STILL ABOUT the main topic please keep it like that,so same problem happens again. OK rich please do me that FAVOR, THIS IS MY LAST POST

ALAN said not to answer you no more and am not listening to him,but i will now SORRY ABOUT THAT ALAN YOU ARE RIGHT

First, I'm not trying to put you down but the reason we are off topic is because what you say in your posts. Your first post said:

"Called PINO robot ,one works perfect and the other need a main cpu board and found out the board costs $1000 frrom japan (ouch) so it perfect for a EZB The robot its self costs $35000 and there is a newer design PINO 2 AT $45000"

Then you say:

"VERSION 1 ,got it at little lower price,made in 2001 by ZMP COMPANY in japan,trying to get the open source software They said mostly schools can get it ,but still will try. I like professional design robots ,next is HANSON ROBOKIND ZENO or DARWIN"

Then another post says:

"All i know this the guy i got from bought it from JAPAN and one i have you can only get it in japan ,can not get it in USA and got both long time ago for $16000 for both of them ."

What was the point of including the price in your post? Frankly, it sound like you were bragging. If you didn't include the price in your post, which I believe everyone was skeptical of, and then say that you got it a little lower price which implies a little less than $35,000, the posts would have stopped long ago. Then we find out you bought it off of some guy on eBay for $175 that said he bought them for $16,000 along time ago? Did you really believe that you could buy that expensive of a robot (2) for $175? Here's a tip. Check your facts first and leave out the price next time you post about getting a new robot and you will see different results.

Fred, to be fair, Bob summed up 70+ posts pretty well.

THANKS it might work,but with RICH in my robot photos it didnt work,RICH found another fault by me that does not matter. it was about the photos i posted was stock photos not mine,IF HE WAITED just a little time i posted my real photos of those 2 items

And there will be another post he will look for a fault of mine ,i know for a fact.what he should do wait till someone else if the make a comment on my fault and then say something about it.

another good TIP I JUST dont reply to RICH but thats kinda hard

AND you said a comment about this ( Did you really believe that you could buy that expensive of a robot (2) for $175?) Many times you hear on the internet that someone buys something at a yard sale and found out when is was checked it was worth thousands of dollars and they paid a few bucks

IT happen to me i went to a thrift store and saw a set of dishes for $75 AND when i took it to dealer that knows prices it was worth $1275 made in 1927 some people doesnt know what some items are worth

when i got mine for $115 i thought it was worth $35000 to $30000 since i saw it in my servo magazine and thought the guy doest know what its worth at first.

I THINK HE WAS LOOKING FOR A LOT MORE. AND DONT forget one is worth nothing its broken

BUT as i checked FREDEBEC comments he is party right its a toy and not worth $30000,most likely worth $500 may be a little less The robot might only cost about a $100 but since its a original and may be one of the first one or so made its worth that much

NOBODY can dispute or not dispute the fact that its one of the first one made ,only ZMP ON THE BOTTOM SAYS THAT

PLUS it said it brought it over from japan where only you can buy it there,but that was after i got it.

SO i hope this ends it and get back to the post about HOW COOL IT IS ,its not about really about what i paid or what its worth or what i said about the wrong price