Whats very important is the date and company logo at the bottom,japan site doesnt show it

And the same one you have RADICA sells it for $60 ,but big problem most forget is the name and date at the bottom

PLEASE SHOW ME one showing the date and company name at the bottom ZMP 2001 and the inventor has his name on it too.

most likely its a good copy,my mom got a handbag that was to be worth big money,but found out it was a very very good copy,no way to tell,until she went to a place that knows about handbag and inside is show it was a copy ,no seal

NO WAY TO TELL if is a copy ,but was made in 2004 not 2001 and doesnt have the inventor name the one by RADAICA

All i want to see the box has the date and the inventor name and date like mine or its made by radica,may be write to the company that sells it,to find out it a copy or original one

UNTIL that can be done it cant be proven

I SEE there is a third company that makes them TSUKADA HOBBY,another copy same box

WHAT i think is going on first the inventor ZMP made the original one first and then maybe TSUKUDA HOBBY made one and then RADICA MADE in in japanese and in usa and PINK and green

iI dont the first one made was pink,mostly he made a green one,so i have the original first one ,witch makes it more rare then any of the other ones,i am thinking mine it worth near $500 so far there is nothing to dispute this yet.

SINCE only copies are shown or cant see the date at the bottom,i do see no its not $30000 as i first thought. LUCKY only paid $115 for both since one is broken,i dont why the board is $1000 to replace in the bad one may be custom fee,s shipping and japan high prices

GOING TO ASK THE GUY that went to japan to get it ,why is the board is $1000,might be they need to make the board again or shipping and customs,customs i know is very high above $300

BUT thats the info i found so far.

really dont care whats its worth,since the rare one thats the original one made i am keeping as a show item and collectors robot.

And the broken pino robot using a EZB

As I said, disputing concrete proof. There's no point in trying to convince otherwise..

Ok, maybe you should re-read the link given by Rich, it tells the whole story : http://www.robots-dreams.com/2004/11/about_pino.html

Here is a sentence :

"Technology from the original project was transfered to ZMP Inc. in June, 2001 in order to commercialize Pino. ZMP worked with a toy company named Tsukuda Original (related to Pal Box), and released three Pino models to the market, (...) The Pino toys were rolled out in October, 2001..." Tsukada robots were not copies, they were the originals, and they were toys.

By the way, if you "only paid $115 for both" (second to last post) and "really don't care whats its worth" (last post), maybe you should avoid to claim that "The robot its self costs $35000" (first post)... Don't you think?

You have the right to believe whatever you want. You said to the community, show me the PINO Japanese box which I did. The point was that you bought a 8 inch PINO "toy" robot, not the PINO robot which sold for upwards of $30,000. As far as it being rare, you have two of them. Maybe there is a market for PINO toy robots somewhere. If you are happy that's all that counts. I hope you enjoy them and will be interested in seeing how it performs with the EZ-B installed. Good luck and enough said.

Regards,

sorry not 8 inch 14 inch model i have ,BOB I DO have a ruler i can use to measure it,but it is 14 inches

SO last post by me ,until i post my ezb project design in a different thread under showcase I say the same thing and not upset or offend anyone or say anyone is right or wrong But no way to tell until i see proof of the photo showing the date and ZMP company like mine has

ALSO i said a few times i found out not it not a $30000 unit,small mistake ,but now its a rare unit unless i see proof of the photo of the date on it or just a copy

I AM very happy on it got very low cost and so far one is a rare one or original one and other one ?

Also it has to be a toy since its not the $30000 unit i first thought it was in first couple of posts

RICH did say it looks like the 14 inch model witch he is correct

14" is also a toy. The advanced humanoid robot is around 24" - 36" based on the videos of it.

3 Toys were made as explained before and in the robot dreams link, the most advanced toy is about 14", these what you got. The main give away between toy and advanced humanoid are the joints. Yours appear to have the joints of the toy version.

I won't say anything about the $30,000 each claims in the first post and the later admission of the much lower price, that speaks for itself. All I will say is that it doesn't help anyone who may be searching for info on the pino in the future.

And as previously mentioned they are popular on eBay over here (including jap version) and go for £20-30 Max.