My point was, don't think, just follow instructions in the order given and 9 times out of 10 it'll solve the issue. I didn't mean anything in a negative way.

@Dave... As Rich would say... Don't sell yourself short... I have learned a lot from you as well... You are well spoken, articulated and I am slightly envious of your fabrication skills... A couple of things Rich said "way" back gave me an eureka moment and from then on I just understood how ARC worked... I think that Rich made me work for something (instead of just giving me the answer) and that made all the difference...

To avoid a group hug, I will leave it here....

@Dave, Mel has a habit of listing his woes and medical issues in every other post ... I am not sure if it is to elicit sympathy or whatever... I have to say it has desensitized me to feeling sorry for him anymore. Still I am sorry he has issues, but some of the bad decisions he makes have nothing to do with any medical problems...

@Mel... Dude no more being a martyr, ok?... So lets share ideas and build some bots. That's why we're here....

OK, that works for me.