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As in tomorrow? Fellas a little heads up on these huge announcements.. I would have flown down to see this!
As in tomorrow? Fellas a little heads up on these huge announcements.. I would have flown down to see this!
https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2017/P4171
6:13 to the end of the video basically.
https://www.howtogeek.com/309119/what-is-windows-10-on-arm-and-how-is-it-different-from-windows-rt/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/12/microsofts_windows_10_armtwist_comes_closer_with_first_demonstration/
Lots of articles about it. The good news is that x86 code will run without needing a separate compiler.
I discussed this a few weeks back on the Tech Today show.
I think I read that the ARM based emulator will only support apps from the widows store, but I maybe be getting that confused with Windows 10s restrictions
@dj
Can ARC for Windows become a Windows Store App?
Frank
But, windows 10s which is aimed at schools is windows store apps only.. so no ARC on those systems unless it can become a windows store app
The emulation is a nice idea... the last company tried something like that closed doors due patent litigation's with Intel.
Intel to Qualcomm and Microsoft: Nice x86 emulation you've got there, shame if it got sued into oblivion:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/09/intel_sends_arm_a_shot_across_bow/
I'll wait to see if is not another flop... two things:
1) performance impact
2) Invisible costs. Instead of building a native ARM core like Linux they picked the easy road (hardware emulation). If Qualcomm enters a fight with Intel, the prices will go up, and the costs will be distributed over the windows ecosystem, so more turbulence.
Good points... also looks like ARM drivers will be requited
https://www.howtogeek.com/309119/what-is-windows-10-on-arm-and-how-is-it-different-from-windows-rt/
I think it will work fine from all of the research I have done. You have to realize that you are not replacing a laptop or desktop. It is a single purpose device. Strip out all of the junk on windows by turning unneeded garbage off and it will work fine. I think it would run as well if not better than a latte panda and I have one of those working well attached to a couple of EZ-B's.
Would you ask autodesk to make their cad program an app? Of course not. ARC is a massive giant huge beast. It is NOT an app, it's a software and library suite.
We tried to use the centennial app creator for ARC last year, but it just won't work because there's too many dependencies. I don't know why Microsoft is trying to make apps like that.
Real software programs like ARC, autodesk, solidworks, visual studio, office, etc.... can't be "apps".
There is a lot of bad speculation in articles. These were all debunked multiple times by Microsoft at multiple events.
I think this is why Microsoft is building a software emulation layer and not Qualcomm. Intel doesnt have a software emulation layer that is protected.
As far as speed, that remains to be seen. Time will tell.
Realizing and exercising the strengths of their operating system should be their focus, imo. Rather than saying "hey apple and android are making money off a closed AppStore model, so should we".... what they should say is "wow, our eco system is open and our AppStore model should reflect that"
So, what I mean by that is Microsoft offering an AppStore but letting it manage REAL programs, not app containers. The app container limits the functionality of the app sooooo much that i might as well be using an iPhone or android tablet.
Aka, microsoft - don't turn a powerful PC into a phone!
How do they do that? Simple actually. Allow MSI installers to be added to the AppStore. Allow the AppStore to manage installation and removal of msi's.
Who ever thought Microsoft should copy a phone or tablet for software installation? Ugh
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I believe that the release of Windows 10 on ARM will be Windows 10 S.
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This can be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro. Once at Pro, the restriction to apps goes away and you would be able to install programs. This is from my research a month ago. We will have to see if this is the case when and if these are released later this year or next year.
Why they upgrade to pro and not home was a mystery until now. It's because pro unlocks the virtualization features of the operating system.
Home has no virtualization.
http://www.techradar.com/news/a-closer-look-at-windows-10-s-windows-10-on-arm-and-windows-10-iot#
I'm having trouble understanding this paragraph.. It says there is one restriction, but i don't seem to see the restriction in the paragraph....
Am i reading this wrong? What's the restriction?
Good news here - because ARC is 32bit
That's why ARC cannot be an app for Windows 10 S
I think the problem is that the author did not state the restriction until the next paragraph... i.e. no x64 software
Which, as you stated, not an issue for ARC... great news
Have you tried an x86 emulator on a pi running windows? If you shut down all host OS services, I wonder how it performs
Out of the box, doesn't seem the pi kernel has any kvm optimization.