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What Is The Minimum Viable Product For ARC Mobile?

Does anyone know what the minimum viable product (MVP) to run ARC mobile would be?

I have a remote application in which I don't want to be out too much $$ if the installation gets trashed or destroyed.

I have an iPhone 5S that can run ARC mobile as it's the last iPhone version that has the ability to run iOS 12. I know the ARC mobile page on the Apple app store says iOS 8 but since the update in 2019, it's actually iOS 12. These devices can sell from $50-150 CAD on the secondhand market.

I have a Samsung Galaxy III (Android 4.4.2) that still runs the old EZ - builder mobile app but it seems too old to run ARC mobile. It doesn't appear to be able to see the app in the Google play store. I tried side-loading the ARC mobile APK but it gave me a "Parsing Error" and didn't install.  I know that the Amazon Fire 7 tablet (Android 5.1 and newer) can be side-loaded with the Google play store and can then install ARC mobile. ARC mobile probably could be side-loaded directly but it's handy to have the app store. These devices sell from $30 secondhand to $80 CAD new.

Has anyone been able to use ARC mobile on Android 5 phones? If so, which devices have you had success with?


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Synthiam
#2  

That’s an impossible question for us to answer because the hardware manufacturers are responsible for their software. So you’d have to check the app pages for iOS and Android respectively to see what is supported.

for example, this is what the iOS app says

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#3   — Edited

@DJ When I used an iPhone 5S with iOS 11 it didn’t work, I had to upgrade to 12, iOS 8 is no longer supported by ARC mobile.

I did thoroughly check the Google App Store for the supported Android version but there was no indication of version number required.

Know that this question wasn’t posted off the cuff but rather thoroughly researched.

The question seems to have been misinterpreted as I am asking the community at large what is the cheapest device they have successfully installed ARC mobile on.

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Synthiam
#4  

Funny, so Apple doesn’t know either lol. Well, the trouble is the phone operating systems change and deprecate functions or certificate signatures. I do run the android app on an old note 3 haha it works fine. I think it’s android 4

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#5   — Edited

@DJ I was thinking I would generate a list that might help myself and others.

I'm not sure if this would be the best place to do it or if there's a specific ARC Mobile page that would be better.

I definitely need the community's help to verify that these devices work with ARC mobile and edit this post accordingly. I'm sure some people here own at least a few of these devices.

Devices compatible with ARC Mobile:

Samsung Galaxy Alpha (up to 5.0.2) Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime (up to 5.1.1) Samsung Galaxy Xcover 3 (up to 5.0) Samsung Galaxy S4 (2013) (up to 5.0.1) and newer (S5, S6, S7, S8, S9, S10, S20, S21, S22) - S7 Verified Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (2013) (up to 5.0) and newer (4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10+, 20, 20 Ultra) - Verified  Samsung Galaxy J1 (2016) 4G, Ace, Ace Neo, Nxt, mini, mini prime (up to 5.1.1) Samsung Galaxy J2 (2016) (up to 5.1.1) Samsung Galaxy J3 (2017) (up to 5.1.1) Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime (2016) (up to 8.1) Samsung Galaxy J7 Pro (2017) (up to 9.0) Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (up to 7.1) Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 (up to 5.1.1) Samsung Galaxy Tab S (up to 5.0.2) and newer (S2, S3, S4, S5e, S6, S6 lite, S7, S8) Samsung Galaxy Tab Note 10.1 (unofficially can run 6.0 and higher) and newer (10.1 2014, 12.2 Pro)

BlackBerry Evolve X (2018) BlackBerry Evolve (2018) BlackBerry Key2 (2018) BlackBerry Motion (2017) BlackBerry Aurora (2017) BlackBerry KeyOne (2017) BlackBerry DTEK60 (2016) BlackBerry DTEK50 (2016) BlackBerry Priv (2015) (up to 5.1.1)

iPhone 5S (12.5.5) and newer (6, 6+, 6S, 6S+, SE, 7, 7+,8, 8+, X, XS, XS Max, XR, 11, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Max, SE (2nd edition), 12, 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max) - Verified iPad Air (12.5.5) and newer (Air WiFi + Cellular, mini 2, mini 2 WiFi + Cellular, Air 2) - Verified iPad Pro (2015 1st gen) (up to Latest)  and newer

LG K20 (9.0)

Sony Xperia M5 (6.0) - Verified

Amazon Fire 7 (2022, 12th gen) 11.0
Amazon Fire HD 10 (2021, 11th gen) 9.0 Amazon Fire HD 8 (2020, 10th Gen) 9.0 Amazon Fire HD 10 (2019, 9th Gen) 9.0 Amazon Fire 7 (2019, 9th Gen) 9.0 Amazon Fire HD 8 (2018, 8th Gen) 9.0 Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017, 7th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire 7 (2017, 7th Gen) 5.1  Amazon Fire HD 8 (2016, 6th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HD 10 (2015, 5th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HD 8 (2015, 5th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire (2015, 5th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HDX 8.9 (2014, 4th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HD 7 (2014, 4th Gen) 5.1 Amazon Fire HD 6 (2014, 4th Gen) 5.1

Chromebooks are known to be able to install Android apps, can someone confirm that ARC Mobile works on them?

Devices not compatible with ARC Mobile:

Blackberry Z10 and Z30 series have Blackberry 10 OS iPhone 5C can't be upgraded to iOS 12 Nokia Lumia 920 has Windows Phone OS

Samsung Galaxy Ace (up to 2.3.6) Samsung Galaxy S3 (2012) (4.4.2) and older - Verified  Samsung Galaxy J1 (2015) (4.4.4) Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 (up to 4.1.2) Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 (2013) (up to 4.4.2) Samsung Rugby 4 pro (4.0.4) Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (up to 4.4.2) and older Samsung Galaxy Note Tab 8.0 (up to 4.4.2)

Acer Liquid MT (2.2) Acer Liquid A1 (up to 2.1) Acer Liquid E (up to 2.2)

Kindle Fire HDX 7 (2013, 3rd Gen) 4.4.2 Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 (2013, 3rd Gen) 4.4.2 Kindle Fire HD 7 (2013, 3rd Gen) 4.4.2 Kindle Fire (2012, 2nd Gen) 4.0.3 Kindle Fire HD 7 (2012, 2nd Gen) 4.0.3 Kindle Fire HD 8.9 (2012, 2nd Gen) 4.0.3 Kindle Fire (2011, 1st Gen) 2.3.3

iPad Mini (2012 1st Gen) (up to 9.3.5)  iPad (2014 4th Gen) (up to 10.3.4) and older - Verified

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Belgium
#6   — Edited

hey jeremie

on a ipad air 12.5.5 it does also works .

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Belgium
#7  

jeremie

sony M5  android firmwire 6.0 also works .

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Canada
#8   — Edited

Thank you @Nomad and @DJ for your contributions to the list!

As it turns out any Amazon Fire tablet should be able to run ARC mobile but none of the Kindle Fires.

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Canada
#9  

Alright, I don't want to make an exhaustive list in the post above so I'll post some links to lists of devices when available.

Here's a list of Chromebooks that can load Android Apps:

https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chrome-os-systems-supporting-android-apps

Theoretically, the majority of them should be able to run ARC mobile as most of the older supported Chromebooks run Android 9 and the newer ones have Android 11.

The cool thing about Chromebooks is that they are low-cost (on the second-hand market) and come with a large monitor (compared to a phone or tablet), built-in Keyboard, and USB ports. You can also use them as a terminal to VNC into a computer running ARC, which works well if you have an SBC on your robot.