All good James, and forums are not the best method of communications, I completely understand.

James, hang out and you will see what people are saying. I personally believe that you will be a tremendous asset to have on the forum. Just hang out and watch a couple of the updates, or search for the updates that I posted earlier and see what they were for. EZ-Robot is a very transparent company with very cooperative people. Its community is much of the same.

I didn't say this earlier, but Welcome to the forum. I look forward to the head and what you will be able to accomplish with the SDK. I think EZ-Robot will surprise you with what is possible.

One final comment in my defense, then I'll let it rest, there is still a place for release cycles. It does not constitute old, outmoded software engineering nor does it imply incompetence to do so. Not implying EZ-Robot doesn't!

Go ahead and flame, I'm probably banned already...

Talk of flame wars and banning, you really have not read much history in the forum.

1. We never, ever had flame wars since the community are intelligent enough to realise what a waste of resources that is - most probably have no idea what a flame war is.

2. We never have banned people. I believe there is a single exception to this in the 3+ years the forum has been running and even that exception took over a year to become banned.

As David said, hang out and you will see. Do not presume, they will be wrong. And most importantly, don't ever look at something as an "argument" or "quarrel", they are always discussions. The community is capable of having different opinions, there are many topics where community members have discussed different opinions without it becoming a flame war or whatever.

I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that making an assumption that the way it is done here is a bad thing based on the number of updates doesn't hold up. The releases have been great and the field of robotics is changing daily. New electronics are hitting the street very quickly and new things are added to ARC and the SDK very quickly when requested. I would have no issue at all if DJ said that he was going to a release cycle approach. Either way has its benefits and advantages. Either way allows good code to be produced if good programmers are doing the coding. The approach followed doesn't constitute good or bad code.

Again, welcome to the community. I am sorry if you felt like I was attacking you. That wasn't my intention.

Cool. But I am rubber and your glue.....

Key word being...update...to me thats different than release. JDK 7 to JDK 8 is a release.

Seriously though, back toc topic. I'll be looking at the API for C++ more this weekend. And if DJ Sures formed a learning robotics company strategy around this ole fart's preferences, he'd go out of business. For learning, the product is the best out there so far as I can see.

But as someone evaluating the platform, and discussing with professor, the impression I come away with is that there is tons of support, but you can't just point to something on the programming API's and say "read this." That's all I was saying. Peace...I'll restrain from "one more thing" here on out regarding this thread. blush

You are correct about programming with the API. What there are quite a few examples in multiple languages on how to do things. This is in the SDK. Good luck!

One more thing Here, there are really no updates per se. There are feature additions via releases. The updates are few and far between to fix something that isn't working correctly. The terms are used interchangeably here as you could say that the update and a release are many times done at the same time. The release to add new features and the update to correct an issue are delivered in the same package. Anyway, I think you get what is being said.