a disruption in the force I feel - yoda

I'm just getting frustrated coming to the forum lately.

I would also love private messaging without the need to expose email addresses, but then you would also need the ability to block someone from sending messages... I would rather have Dj put effort into ARC and if the forum management gets to be too big use vBulletin or pbpboard and maybe have some of us assigned to help moderate.

(and I feel for you. Wished the same thing many times, and I don't think we are talking about the rash of spam a couple of days ago - or was it yesterday. So busy the days are flowing together).

Alan

Sorry guys , i m one who does not enjoy bickering. Its a clash of personalities that is bound to happen.

I would like to see the same thing too. TOO many topics are filled with comments that are not needed or insulting to others.

i know some comments others make are good advice and some are not.

No offense Robotmaker but your the #1 offender.

I know you mean well but your posts are sometimes senseless, off topic, and only self promoting for yourself.

HI ALAN my friend you said you want my email now i can give it to you

HOPE its ok for LUMPY to add the post,since its his post

[email protected] ,also if you LUMPY needs to email me you can too.

@robotmaker, It may be this weekend before I write. I have some advice, and I want to write it very carefully so you take it in the spirit it is meant without getting insulted, so it will take me some time. But I think i can help with your communication in general and your constant arguments with Rich if you are willing to work with me and take some constructive criticism. Anything I say is in the spirit of friendship and harmony. I value your enthusiasm for robotics, and your willingness to share your knowledge. What we need to work on is how it is shared so that everyone appreciates it too.

Alan

@Alan Thumbs Up! +1

@Lumpy @thetechguru Thumbs up. Maybe different avenues will help.

OK will see,i see RICH sent me a very nasty email,i dont reply to him or say anything bad to him.

i know my communcation is kinda bad and is getting better like you said,but i just havent use it in a very very long time. And it takes awhile to get use to it.

Second part ALAN i belong to many clubs and forums and it never had anyone say my communication skills are bad,except this one
so why is that ? and they have more members too

WHAT i will not stand is that RICH INSULTS ME ,and it happen a few times and i never insult him

LUMPY MY posts used to be off topic ,but not any more

And i dont really see them as self promoting also,may be in the past but atleast not now

I think also RICH should get emails from you guys too ,to stop the insults and try to be a nice guy like me,you never once see me get mad or upset or anything else

SECOND on RICH almost not once did he say i did a great job on my project or it look very good or said my idea was good.BUT i did many many times.

I even tried to let the past go with RICH but it didnt do any good .

also ALAN YOU or anyone else i think will never insult me ,you guys are more like me

Let's drop it for now. You and I will talk by email, maybe even phone after a few emails if it will help, and by the end even you and Rich will be friends (well, maybe not, but at least the bickering will stop).

Alan

yes let drop it,will wait for email ALAN i have a few problem i need to say to you about others .

SORRY i dont think RICH will be friends he is not a nice guy like me,i tried to be nice to him and say good things about his project and tried to help to give him ideas ,but as you can see

ON THE BICKERING will stop because of me ,i just wont argue with him any more

But STILL give him a good comment on his project or ideas I JUST LET IT GO my comment i make to others sometimes is simple "when i guy hits you in his face offer the other side to hit " hope most knows what that meens

As I have posted in two topics which went down that ugly path, I will no longer acknowledge @robotmaker as I know how bad for the community it is (the off the forum emails have confirmed that and put my mind at rest) and I really don't want to be the cause of people not using the forum, I make a lot of effort to get people to use them.

I do apologise to everyone who is as fed up with it as I am, it should stop now (hopefully), at least I won't be responding to it. Again, if anyone wishes to discuss it with me my email address welcomes you [email protected]

It's probably easiest to not talk to those people who bother you .. Simply ignore their posts

DJ,

It's hard to ignore their posts when they are babbling in every post of the forum. It would be different if at minimum the comments made sense and related to the topic.

Good advice DJ that from now on i do not talk to someone on this post anymore. I tried to be nice to him but didnt work.

ALSO i do apologise to everyone on the problem that i did,nobody is perfect

ONLY WORST thing i cant stand is to be insulted,just because somebody sais something you didnt like or dont agree with it doesnt meen you have to get MAD and give the other person a insult and themn also say i dont care i hurt your feelings ,like in one post

Also RICH i told you again please do not send me any more emails ,i see in my spam you did AFTER I TOLD YOU NOT TOO.

Thats why i didnt put the email up for ALAN and TROY Only here to build robots mostly

Omg, you guys are killing me lol. Every time I read posts that include people bickering, it makes me think that some people have lost focus of what this forum is here for. This forum is a gift, its a privelage, and a tremendously useful tool for us to learn from eachother and it won't be around forever if the facebook-like drama ensues. Thats why there isn't a block button, there shouldnt be a need for one. I vote no more bickering, and no more threads started on the topic. There's my two cents.

Dj has good advice and @robotmaker has helped me a lot as many people have, sorry we all can't be up to everyones standards

Well it's a problem that needs to be resolved.

Does DJ want the good people to leave because of a few bad apples?

Ignoring the problem/posts is not going to resolve it.

Better to discuss rather than lose customers.

If you want to call it bickering that's your choice.

I visit this forum multiple times during the day. I'm here to learn and help others.

I dont think we will lose bad customers because iof this.

My ideas only here to help others.

Also discussing it makes it worse.

DJ gave very good advive when a person bothers you just answer him,be before i did on RICH ,but now not going to argue any more with RICH ,i just post my ideas for others to use

So problem WITH STOP at least with me ,

I still think latter on there will be others that will argue and they need to do the same .

JUST like this this post has nothing to do with making robots and thats what i am here for.

Well not discussing doesn't resolve anything.

Maybe we need dedicated moderators to help keep people on track? We shouldn't but something needs to change.

@Robotmaker, I hope things change. I hope things get better. Have a look back at some of your posts and try to understand the reason the frustration levels have grown on the forum. It's not all you but a large part of your posts up to the last few days or so have been annoying as hell. I look forward to a resolution. I believe you have a wealth of knowledge but you need to share it/communicate it in a better fashion.

Well I certainty hope I don't cause anyone's frustrations , if i do your welcome to email me anytime. - josh s

@Josh, You frustrate me with all your cool ideas!

LUMPY every post is about me and RICH nobody else do i have a problem with and what makes them much worse is the insults i get from him.

BUT nobody will say anything to RICH because he is very good at coding and it make cause him to leave the forum,

THAT is not fair

Then you sir are welcome to email me! Lmbo

Always know JOSH is a very cool person and funny sometimes

@All - don't fall in to the same trap I did. It's not worth it. Concerns should be raised off of the forums. Hostility and frustration seems to be frequenting this topic and I've only made one post... I wasn't going to post again however after reading the three pages worth of posts I feel I must.

It's no secret that there are heated discussions between myself and @robotmaker, it's no secret that he has frustrated me recently to a degree that quite frankly I am a little ashamed of, however I did all I could to keep that away from the community. My excuse, if I need one is that it is difficult helping others learn when there is someone there constantly pushing your buttons, complaining about not using an idea or complaining about using an idea they had.

From emails received over the past 3 weeks or so I am fully aware that it is not the bickering which is the problem. I am also aware that a disturbing number of people no longer post on the forums as they have told me so in the same emails. What @Lumpy expressed is absolutely correct. The community is already losing members and it isn't just due to any bickering.

All I will suggest is to ignore those who you don't wish to deal with. It is hard (I know it's hard!) but it really is the only way. We are a community, each of us has something to offer everyone else.

If your frustration becomes too much or if you have any concerns over what you are seeing in the forums surely it is best to voice them privately via the Contact Us page. We must remember that EZ-Robots is growing, the staff are very busy and things of this nature on the forums for all to see, including potential new members and new sales will not help them progress.

I am a very approachable person, if you have concerns over anything I post, or if you think my posts have stepped over a line I honestly welcome any emails informing me. It's plainly obvious that I am on here to help as much as I can but I do realise that sometimes I may get to a point that someone needs to stop me and say "hold on a minute". Some of you have been doing that, I thank you for it (you know who you are) and I've been able to pull away from many a topic which could easily have ended up like some of the others.

Now, can we get on with building some darn robots please?.

AMEN TO BUILDING ROBOTS I said the same thing ignore them like i am doing from now on.

BUT also RICH you need not to get mad at people who push you buttons by calling them names or bad insults.

NOT once do you ever see me get mad at anyone ,NEVER a reason to get mad at a person just because you think his idea may not be any good.

ALSO have you ever tested the design to say it doesnt work ,so how do you know it a bad idea.

HOW does anyone know we are losing customers i dont think there is a counter to say how many is on this forum

ONLY DJ can say if we are losing people and could be from other reasons also.

Resist the urge , don't reply just ignore each other..... No reply needed

YES i started it already JOSH , just dont reply any more

HOPE this post is ended SO we can build what i love the most ROBOTS i hope to have the largest collection ever of robots

My girlfriend says i am ROBOHOLIC and i need a cure fot it.

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