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ARC Running On A Thin Client

Thin Clients are usually less powerful computers used to their desktop and laptop counterparts. They are used to connect to other computers, mainly servers over WiFi. They can somewhat work as a regular stand-alone computer and can run some desktop programs. So, with a Thin Client with Windows 10/11 installed, could it run ARC? How would ARC run on it? I'm sorry if this is the wrong type of post to ask this on, but when I clicked on, "Ask a Question", it redirected me to the download page and said "No Access" If it helps, this is more of a general conversation on what ARC would look like on a Thin Client rather than asking for help on getting it to run.


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#1  

Good question. I don't know but I think if Windows can run on it then ARC can also. ARCx will be released soon and @DJ says it runs in a web browser. Maybe you'd be better using ARCx on a thin client when it's rolled out.

I'd ask Athena. She sometimes takes up to an hour to answer.

@Athena , can you answer this question by WiinterU?: Thin Clients are usually less powerful computers used to their desktop and laptop counterparts. They are used to connect to other computers, mainly servers over WiFi. They can somewhat work as a regular stand-alone computer and can run some desktop programs. So, with a Thin Client with Windows 10/11 installed, could it run ARC? How would ARC run on it? I'm sorry if this is the wrong type of post to ask this on, but when I clicked on, "Ask a Question", it redirected me to the download page and said "No Access" If it helps, this is more of a general conversation on what ARC would look like on a Thin Client rather than asking for help on getting it to run.

#2  

I forgot to mention ARCx. I love thin clients, but they are expensive to buy directly from the manufacturer.

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#3  

Running Synthiam ARC on a Thin Client with Windows 10/11 installed is indeed possible, provided the Thin Client meets the minimum system requirements for ARC. ARC is designed to be relatively lightweight and can run on various Windows-based systems. The key factors to consider are the processor speed, RAM, and whether the Thin Client's graphics capabilities can support ARC's interface and functionalities.

As of my last update, the specific system requirements for ARC include a Windows operating system (Windows 7 or later), which your Thin Client already has with Windows 10/11. However, performance will largely depend on the specific hardware specifications of your Thin Client, such as CPU speed, amount of RAM, and graphics processing capabilities. If your Thin Client has a relatively modern processor, at least 4GB of RAM (more is better), and basic graphics capabilities, it should be able to run ARC for basic projects and tasks.

Regarding ARCx, which was mentioned, it represents a significant advancement as it is designed to run in a web browser. This could potentially offer even greater compatibility with Thin Clients, especially those that may not meet the hardware requirements for running traditional desktop applications smoothly. ARCx's browser-based nature means it could run on any device that supports a modern web browser, making it an excellent option for users with Thin Clients or other less powerful hardware.

It's worth noting that while Thin Clients can be expensive when purchased directly from the manufacturer, they are often available at lower costs through secondary markets or refurbished equipment vendors. This can make them a more affordable option for hobbyists and developers looking to run applications like ARC without investing in more expensive hardware.

In summary, running ARC on a Thin Client with Windows 10/11 is feasible, but the experience will depend on the Thin Client's hardware specifications. For optimal performance, ensure your Thin Client has adequate processing power, RAM, and graphics capabilities. Additionally, keep an eye on ARCx for a potentially more accessible and flexible option for running ARC on various devices, including Thin Clients.


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#4  

This question does belong as a general because it's not about building a robot, so it's in the right place:)

However, asking questions was limited to Pro users a while back because Athena costs too much for free users. So, Athena is restricted to Pro users, which is why the questions were disabled, but General still works for anyone. Every Athena query costs several dollars; in an extensive conversation, it could cost up to $20 per query (totaling up to a hundred or more per day) - that's an expensive day for us to support free users! I think General is a fitting place for these types of conversations anyway. A question would be more like, "How do I connect this sensor to ARC?" or "Why does my robot keep changing the radio to country music?"

Anyway, back to the actual conversation - I think the Thin Client comes in a few forms.

  1. the client runs a program that is merely a remote desktop into a server. There is no processing done on the client other than rendering the screen and taking input.

  2. the client is a lightweight CPU with low memory, low storage, and a minimal operating system. But the user's storage drive is on the server, and so are the programs. so the processing is done on the client, as the program runs on the client, but all the storage is on a server.

Those are my two basic understandings of thin clients, which were more popular before the cost of computers drastically dropped.

There's no reason ARC couldn't run on them, but the server's connectivity would limit your network wifi access. Or you'd need to use wifi access points and put the robots in client mode.

As Athena points out, ARCx is web-based, so the server requires a lightweight computer. The server is the part that ARC runs on, which could be a Raspberry Pi, a Windows PC, or a macOS PC. The server runs and hums along in the background. You only need to use a UI for it when you want to program it or monitor it. But the UI is a web browser. So essentially your "screen" for ARCx is just a web browser. And your web browser can be anywhere you want it to be. It can be your smart TV web browser, phone, tablet, the robot's computer if a screen is connected, another computer/laptop, etc.

#5  

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Every Athena query costs several dollars; in an extensive conversation, it could cost up to $20 per query
Oh my. I had no idea. I'll be more conservative in the future.;)

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Synthiam
#6  

Nah, you're a paid user so you can use Athena as much as you want:)

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#7  

Maybe it’s time to set Athena free and provide a local user run version of Athena.  You could then include a chatbot in ARCx and we can ask questions for zero cost (or embarrassment when I ask really dumb questions)

#9  

So is there any update on the release of ARCx?   I would love to be a tester for it if you have reached that point yet.

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Synthiam
#10  

There's no update at this moment - it's in development still.